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1Entry 1 - Pi7.681.9538679586912
2Entry 2 - 17603.37.642.017523234067
3Entry 9 - 67.561.6989408465276
4Entry 6 - 37.522.041959842896
5Entry 3 - 76.41.897366596101
6Entry 4 - pi*ie6.081.9166637681138
7Entry 5 - 45.21.9183326093251
8Entry 8 - 14.882.3886397802934
9Entry 10 - 124.763.0236401902343
10Entry 7 - 44.562.515233587562
Entry 1 - Pi
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Average Vote 7.68
Standard Deviation 1.9538679586912

Entry 2 - 17603.3
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Average Vote 7.64
Standard Deviation 2.017523234067

Entry 3 - 7
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Average Vote 6.4
Standard Deviation 1.897366596101

Entry 4 - pi*ie
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Average Vote 6.08
Standard Deviation 1.9166637681138

Entry 5 - 4
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Average Vote 5.2
Standard Deviation 1.9183326093251

Entry 6 - 3
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Average Vote 7.52
Standard Deviation 2.041959842896

Entry 7 - 4
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Average Vote 4.56
Standard Deviation 2.515233587562

Entry 8 - 1
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Average Vote 4.88
Standard Deviation 2.3886397802934

Entry 9 - 6
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Average Vote 7.56
Standard Deviation 1.6989408465276

Entry 10 - 12
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Average Vote 4.76
Standard Deviation 3.0236401902343
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Alright, attached to the next ten replies will be the 10 valid entries, along with some supplemental information for a couple to help put them in context. There were a couple that just wanted to rename the Eighth rather than choose a new number for it, both of which were disqualified. I did leave one such entry in, however, because it did also choose a number and try to persuade people it was the correct one; the renaming of The Eighth was supplemental to that goal, plus it was a really clever entry.

Please view each entry and judge them each on their own merits, based on how well they did at convincing you their number was the best. And just to keep the playing field a bit more level, I will assume everyone will vote their own a 10. And remember - we're choosing a new Official Number for The Eighth. This is a poll that will affect things yet to come.

Edit: Seems I got my time estimate wrong, and the poll will be closing 2 hours earlier than intended. That's a shame.

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"This scroll, which was found in the deep Melenfral archives, shows only the royals who are both important and accounted for, which is, by far not all of them."

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"Please note: ideally this should have Carl Orff's "O Fortuna" playing in the background, but since it's copyrighted, I decided to leave the music to your imagination (or you can find a sound clip of it and play it while you watch)."

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Supplemental Info: both files are part of the same entry. Think of them as a piece of literature with a picture on the end.

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That's it. Sorry for the double-submission of this topic, people who have the forum on watch; for some reason the end date for the polls got changed while I was adding them, so instead of running for a week it was going to run for 3 days. So I had to redo it. Let the voting begin!

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Some fine efforts I'd have to say.

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I was very tempted to rate each entry the number it was proposing... But the entry for PI and for 3 were my favorites, and were both low numbers...

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Blargh, no one did 8? Curse my busyness.
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You'll note that despite all the numerals, I didn't list what ratings I gave. This is because I haven't voted yet. Maybe in a few days, when more discussion has happened.

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Once upon a time, people used unhidetime tags when they posted comments so that other people's comments didn't influence voting....

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I was very tempted to rate each entry the number it was proposing... But the entry for PI and for 3 were my favorites, and were both low numbers...
Should we worry that someone might have done this? I mean, I suppose you can pick whatever criteria you like, but there's at least one entry where it has a vote for the number it's advocating, and that vote is something of an outlier. (Why, oh why, didn't I put in an entry for 10?)
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Once upon a time, people used unhidetime tags when they posted comments so that other people's comments didn't influence voting....
This argument has been had before, and to it I can only respond that if they don't want to be influenced, it's in a secret tag they do not have to open.

I feel like I've had to say this before at some point.

Edit: Personally I feel like discussing the entries would be interesting and healthy for the community - while I understand that some people worry about influence, I think giving people options is the best thing and that is actually those using unhidetime tags who ought to be fussed at, if anyone should be.

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I was very tempted to rate each entry the number it was proposing... But the entry for PI and for 3 were my favorites, and were both low numbers...
What would pi*e*i end up with, though?

I really like how the voting is being run with no indication of who submitted what, and would love to keep it that way.

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This argument has been had before, and to it I can only respond that if they don't want to be influenced, it's in a secret tag they do not have to open.
It's a fair point, I suppose. I'd feel better about discussion if people who voted before seeing it could change their votes based on it, though.

I will say, though, if public comments are being made, that

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I'd feel better about discussion if people who voted before seeing it could change their votes based on it, though.
Maybe in the future we can be like the Americans and have two years of run-up before elections. Or, y'know, at least a day or two. I don't see it as a huge deal if there are going to be people who vote without discussing anyway.
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Remember, pi is approximately equal to e, which is pretty damn close to 2. So pi = 2.

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Thanks DiMono, the whole office is staring at me now for laughing so hard. Take my last two mod points, you earned them. :lol
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With 20 votes in, this contest seems to have higher standard deviations than most. That is to say, each entry's votes seem to be a little more across-the-board and less agreed-upon than is typical in contests.

At the moment, with 20 votes in, the lowest standard deviation is 1.68, bearing in mind that 0 means "complete agreement" and 4.5 means "complete polarization". What really cracks me up, though, is that Entry 10 has a standard deviation of 2.94, or in layman's terms, "votes that are all over the map" (something with a single vote for each number would have a standard deviation of 2.87). I think I succeeded with that entry.

(For comparison, the standard deviations in the January "crowd sourcing" contest ranged from .9 at the lowest to 2.2 at the highest. The standard deviations in the October "Everyman Eighth Games" contest ranged from 1.5 to 2.4. The range here is--with 21 votes, now--1.64 to 2.997.)

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And the new number of the Eighth is... Pat Buchanan!

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With 20 votes in, this contest seems to have higher standard deviations than most. That is to say, each entry's votes seem to be a little more across-the-board and less agreed-upon than is typical in contests.

My favourite vote distribution so far is on the last one, where each value has roughly an equal number of votes. I think part of the deviation is that each entry is wildly different from the others, so forming an objective basis for comparison is unusually tricky.

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Still time to vote! Votey vote vote! It's your civic duty as a member of the forum, plus voting makes you swim faster! Vot...oh, you get the idea.

(Seriously, y'all, this is an easy contest to vote in. There's no holds to play, no codes to break, just looking at ten entries, and at least two of them take under ten seconds to read in their entirety.)
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