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RankEntryAverageStandard Deviation
1VIPCOOL's pRetTy uGly hoLd91.1180339887499
2The Stew Boy's Bleach Stew7.51.2247448713916
3Chaco's Profoundly Ugly Room6.8752.3684119151871
4noma's More Reno's6.3752.8695600708122
5VIPCOOL's PrTty UgLyh Old 36.1251.6909686573086
5Tahnan's Beauty Under Brains6.1251.9645292056877
7Eyeminator by Skell5.751.5612494995996
812th Archivist's Total Ugli5.3750.99215674164922
9noma's Renovations Completed4.51.5
My ratings are based on
Actually trying to solve all or most of the entries!!! PollPollPoll 5 62.50%
Just looking at the rooms in the editor. PollPollPoll 2 25.00%
How much I like the architect. PollPollPoll 0 0.00%
Wait, they're supposed to be based on something? PollPollPoll 1 12.50%

Chaco's Profoundly Ugly Room
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Average Vote 6.875
Standard Deviation 2.3684119151871

noma's Renovations Completed
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Average Vote 4.5
Standard Deviation 1.5

Eyeminator by Skell
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Average Vote 5.75
Standard Deviation 1.5612494995996

VIPCOOL's pRetTy uGly hoLd
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Average Vote 9
Standard Deviation 1.1180339887499

Tahnan's Beauty Under Brains
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Average Vote 6.125
Standard Deviation 1.9645292056877

12th Archivist's Total Ugli
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Average Vote 5.375
Standard Deviation 0.99215674164922

The Stew Boy's Bleach Stew
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Average Vote 7.5
Standard Deviation 1.2247448713916

noma's More Reno's
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Average Vote 6.375
Standard Deviation 2.8695600708122

VIPCOOL's PrTty UgLyh Old 3
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Average Vote 6.125
Standard Deviation 1.6909686573086
Total Votes 14 100%
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This is the voting poll for the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly unofficial contest. The poll closes at Local Time:07-12-2009 at 11:00 PM.

Holds should be rated primarily on their ugliness. What exactly constitutes a 1 or a 10 is left to the discretion of the voter, but as with any contest, creativity and attention to detail in the pursuit of ugliness are certainly appropriate to consider as the voter sees fit. That said, while traditional architectural craftsmanship was encouraged, it was not the focus of the contest, so voters should not let the quality of the room's puzzle influence their votes by more than a point in either direction.

Other than that, all normal polling rules apply. Give your own entries a 10, rank all others fairly, and while you're encouraged to comment on individual entries and the contest as a whole, leave them in secret tags or date-stamped, and don't read others' comments before voting.

An archive of all entries as of the end of the contest is attached; entries are available individually at their original posts. The poll is arranged in chronological order of entry.
Chaco's Profoundly Ugly Room
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Tahnan's Beauty Under Brains
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The Stew Boy's Bleach Stew
noma's More Reno's
VIPCOOL's PrTty UgLyh Old 3

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06-29-2009 at 12:28 AM
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I have some comments on the individual entries, and on how the contest turned out more generally. A large part of this contest's reason for existence is to look at the DROD community's take on the subject matter (my foray into the social sciences, if you will), so please vote before reading - I don't want to influence the results, but if there's going to be discussion, I see no reason to force a delay by enforcing this with a timestamp.

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06-29-2009 at 05:43 AM
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I suppose I could make a compilation of the holds since you don't particularly need a not-ugly hold select chamber thing?

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Here's mine. That room will be an interesting optimization challenge. :)

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06-29-2009 at 04:56 PM
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I suppose I could make a compilation of the holds since you don't particularly need a not-ugly hold select chamber thing?
Thanks for the offer, but I was planning on putting it together myself once voting is over. I'm not sure how exactly the compilation will go, but it certainly does seem appropriate to make the hub ugly so long as it doesn't upstage the entries.

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06-29-2009 at 07:10 PM
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Edit: Secreted, then.

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06-30-2009 at 07:57 AM
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Dude, keep this stuff in secret tags or other people will follow my lead.

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06-30-2009 at 02:49 PM
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So, um, voting "10" for one hold and "1" for every other hold is probably not the way to go here. What's especially odd is that I know perfectly well that the architect with said 10 didn't do this.

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07-06-2009 at 03:51 PM
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This comment in the Flags poll bothered me when I saw it, and I'm sure there are others who purposefully vote low for the other contest entries in order to increase the chances of the entry they prefer. The 10 and 1 votes are obvious, but I think most who do this probably go for the 9/10 and 4/5 route so that it's more likely to slip under the radar. It violates the spirit of a poll, but I doubt that anything can be done about it.
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So... that vote is going to be ignored?
No need, considering that person won. If it was a very close 2nd or 3rd place things would be different.
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To clarify - NiroZ's talking about the 1 vote over in Suicidal Beethro, not the (now removed) problem vote here. The contest here is still going and needs more votes!

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Whoops, I really need to check what thread I'm replying to. :blush
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Come on people, just two more days to vote. Make yours count.
THIS.

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07-11-2009 at 07:06 AM
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OK, I yield. Chaco, could I get a demo?

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Here you go.

This is actually a pretty tough room because there's two lynchpins and a lot of things you have to get exactly right. Hopefully these are logical conclusions to come to, though - I don't think the room is too difficult in terms of execution, only in terms of figuring out what to do.

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Less than 24 hours to go, and we still have fewer votes than contestants! Get your votes in!

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I have now voted upon all entries, with alpha blending off, and I have a headache.

Great contest. Let's never do this again.

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Ick. Voted. You'll have to pardon me for giving only even ratings. I couldn't stand to look at these longer to discern finer differences in ugliness.

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The People Have Spoken!

In First Place: VIPCOOL, with his pRetTy uGly hoLd! Winning by a landslide, VIPCOOL took "cluttered" to entirely new dimensions of ugly, and carefully designed the room to force the player to stare at the hideous design in detail to figure out the room. Well done!

In Second Place: The Stew Boy, with Bleach Stew! Aside from coming up with easily the most disturbing hold title of the lot, The Stew Boy took "cluttered" in a somewhat different direction, creating a hold in which navigation itself was difficult. The hold culminated in a "find the remaining monsters" puzzle again requiring the player to examine the room in detail to maximize the impact of the horrific design.

In Third Place: Chaco, with Chaco's Profoundly Ugly Room! True to its name, this was an ugly room in which overlapping shapes of various elements were scattered about to create a strongly disordered room. Chaco's room is also notable for having perhaps the best (and certainly the hardest!) puzzle of the lot.

Thanks, everyone, for playing! I've arranged with NiroZ to distribute the prizes, such as they are: 5 valuable mod points to VIPCOOL, 3 to The Stew Boy, and 1 to Chaco.

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Just post below and I'll hand them out.
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Hey, I placed!

One thing that I'm surprised nobody brought up is that I managed to put the actual room in a surprisingly small vertical space, then deliberately shoved it off-center to the right, putting the natural focus on the mess I left in the left and center of the room.

Well done to all, and I believe the first and second-place entries did a better job of making the DROD world awful-looking than I did. :)

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A beta release of the compilation has been posted over in Architecture.

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