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icon Can't hack mud/tar/gel on turn mother is killed (+2)  
I'm using the latest patch, and it occurs in both this and the original.
You can't hack mud/tar/gel in the same turn as the mother is killed by a bomb, and neither can a mimic, although briar can. This applies only if the mother is physically connected to the m/t/g you're hacking. This doesn't apply if the mother is killed by you, a mimic or briar.

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icon Re: Can't hack mud/tar/gel while mother is killed (+2)  
Phew! This is a tricky one.

The root cause of this issue is that when the tar is stabbed, a duel is prepared with the connected tar mother instead of immediately removing the stabbed tar. Then, when the bomb detonates and the explosion kills the tar mother, the combat is skipped, and the tar stab doesn't happen.

I've fixed this by queuing up a list of potential tar stabs, pending a monster duel. Then, after room events are processed, if there are no live monsters left to duel on the tarstuff being stabbed, the tar can be removed immediately after all (without having fought the mother, etc). If the monster the game engine originally intended you to fight dies, but there is another live monster on the tarstuff, you will start a fight with that other monster instead.

Fixed in rev 113.

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In build 1.2.3.116 the player and a mimic are able to cut tarstuff if the mother died on the same turn by a bomb blast. :thumbsup

A related issue has been found though. If the player kills the tarstuff mother, then a mimic attempting to cut the tarstuff on the same turn immediately afterwards will fail. :no

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A related issue has been found though. If the player kills the tarstuff mother, then a mimic attempting to cut the tarstuff on the same turn immediately afterwards will fail. :no
I think this is a preexisting issue, correct?

Fixed in rev 131.

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It might have been pre-existing, yeah.

Anyway I can confirm that a mimic can cut tarstuff on the same turn that the player kills the mother, rendering it inert in 1.2.3.133 :thumbsup
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