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Quite simple. down the bottom you put a 2 under techant and a 0 under noma. Although noma went rock so it would actually go the other way around.

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What? Did I suddenly miss the whole submission process? I thought after all the ambiguity we decided this thread was just for signing up and we'd be posting our choice and who we wanted to play in another thread? Has that happened and I missed it?
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Well I thought this was pretty obvious http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=28396

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Oh, and people, when you compare the 'battle' between two entrants, do a strikethrough through their respective names so that we know that they have been done. Saves things being done repeditively.

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I think it's also a good idea to tally the name of the opponent along with the score. So assuming techant goes rock, noma goes scissors, under techant it will go noma 2, under noma it will go techant 0.
And then when the column is finished, change the names to the comments for that cell instead. Or just do the calculations some other way.

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Oh. I browse the forums via the 'last 24 hours' search page.. I had looked at this thread as I thought an announcement would be posted here but never saw the other one. Oh well.

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Ok, in the future I'll post it in this thread as well. Sorry about that.

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My pc can't open this scores page and i don't know why.

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What browser/operating system are you using?

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I opened it with firefox. I really don't understand what system u are using for results. can someone please explain me?

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Hey there. Just got a PM from zex saying that there's an error in my score tally. Since I haven't done any tallying, first I'd like to thank whoever did it for me, and second, ask if someone could fix it. I've been stuck in the bowels of a nuclear plant since 6am and am unlikely to get out anytime soon. I can surf from my phone but can't access the linked page. Besides, I have a feeling it's not the type of thing I want to try and edit on a 2x4 sceen.
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I've fixed noma's column, according to the scores that were left. If those were wrong, then noma's column is wrong, but I think everything's okay with them. I had seen a "12" in one of her totals.

Then again, I saw somebody putting 12s on the bottom of everybody's list. No clue what's up with that.

Totals are nice, too. If you finish a column, it'd be nice if you put the total there as well, so we can all compare our scores.

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Thanks muchly zex 20913!
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I'm completely lost. What on earth is going on? :~(

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Sorry about not participating even though I signed up - I promised myself that one day soon I would come back to the thread, do some psycho-analytic gibberish and then submit all my guesses, but then I got busy and never got around to it.

I'll have to read the score report to see whether I was merely disqualified or whether I was given a set of default responses.

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As far as I can tell my responses were chosen randomly, possibly (1/3) chance of picking any of the three signs. NiroZ, want to confirm that?

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Since it seems a lot of workt to figure out all the scores by hand for every round, I decided to write a C++ program to count the scores automatically. With information copied from the spreadsheet to a plain text file, it can interpret all players moves, display them in a compact table, and calculate the scores.

I hope I did the scoring correctly. It only gives scores for matches where both players have entered a move and the matches where where people play against themselves are ignored as well.

So, here are the results. I cannot guarantee that all are acurate, so I encourage people to check them.

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    nom kwa eb0 nea tec aga bdw dan mxv bri jas hyp rob ura som tri vip dis cha lop zwe mau tut kie nun zex sli jut the
nom  -  P-R S-  P-R R-S S-P R-R R-R P-R S-P P-P R-P P-  R-P P-P P-  S-P S-S S-  P-R P-P R-  R-R P-P P-S P-S R-S P-S P- 
kwa R-P  -  R-  S-R S-P R-R S-P S-P S-P R-P S-P S-P P-  R-P S-R R-  S-P S-S R-  S-S R-P R-  S-P S-P P-P R-P S-P P-P S- 
eb0  -S  -R  -   -R  -S  -R  -S  -R  -S  -P  -S  -P  -   -P  -S  -   -P  -S  -   -P  -P  -   -S  -P  -P  -P  -R  -R  - 
nea R-P R-S R-   -  R-P R-P P-R P-R P-P P-P P-P P-P P-  S-P S-S S-  S-P S-S S-  R-S R-P R-  R-R R-P R-R R-P P-P S-S R- 
tec S-R P-S S-  P-R  -  P-S P-P P-S P-S P-P P-S P-P P-  P-P P-S P-  R-P P-S R-  P-P P-P R-  P-P P-P P-S P-R P-S P-S S- 
aga P-S R-R R-  P-R S-P  -  P-S P-P P-R R-P P-P R-P P-  R-P S-S P-  P-P R-S R-  P-R P-P R-  P-P S-P S-P R-S P-S S-S P- 
bdw R-R P-S S-  R-P P-P S-P  -  P-S S-P R-P P-P S-P R-  P-P S-P R-  P-P S-S R-  P-P S-P R-  P-R S-P R-S P-S S-R R-R P- 
dan R-R P-S R-  R-P S-P P-P S-P  -  P-R R-P P-P S-P R-  P-P R-P S-  R-P R-S S-  P-S R-P S-  P-S S-P R-P S-R S-P S-S S- 
mxv R-P P-S S-  P-P S-P R-P P-S R-P  -  P-P R-P R-P S-  R-P S-S S-  P-P P-S P-  S-S P-P R-  R-P R-P P-P R-P S-S S-R P- 
bri P-S P-R P-  P-P P-P P-R P-R P-R P-P  -  P-S P-P P-  P-P P-R P-  P-P P-S P-  P-P P-P P-  P-P P-P P-R P-S P-R P-S P- 
jas P-P P-S S-  P-P S-P P-P P-P P-P P-R S-P  -  P-P P-  P-P P-R P-  P-P P-S S-  P-S P-P S-  P-P R-P P-P P-S S-P P-S P- 
hyp P-R P-S P-  P-P P-P P-R P-S P-S P-R P-P P-P  -  P-  P-P P-P P-  P-P P-S P-  P-S P-P P-  P-R P-P P-S P-P P-S P-S P- 
rob  -P  -P  -   -P  -P  -P  -R  -R  -S  -P  -P  -P  -   -P  -S  -   -P  -S  -   -P  -P  -   -P  -P  -P  -S  -P  -R  - 
ura P-R P-R P-  P-S P-P P-R P-P P-P P-R P-P P-P P-P P-   -  P-S P-  P-P P-S P-  P-P P-P P-  P-S P-P P-S P-P P-S P-R P- 
som P-P R-S S-  S-S S-P S-S P-S P-R S-S R-P R-P P-P S-  S-P  -  S-  R-P P-S R-  P-R P-P R-  S-P P-P S-S S-R S-P S-S R- 
tri  -P  -R  -   -S  -P  -P  -R  -S  -S  -P  -P  -P  -   -P  -S  -   -P  -S  -   -P  -P  -   -P  -P  -P  -R  -R  -S  - 
vip P-S P-S P-  P-S P-R P-P P-P P-R P-P P-P P-P P-P P-  P-P P-R P-   -  P-S P-  P-S P-P P-  P-S P-P P-R P-P P-S P-P P- 
dis S-S S-S S-  S-S S-P S-R S-S S-R S-P S-P S-P S-P S-  S-P S-P S-  S-P  -  S-  S-R S-P S-  S-P S-P S-P S-S S-S S-S S- 
cha  -S  -R  -   -S  -R  -R  -R  -S  -P  -P  -S  -P  -   -P  -R  -   -P  -S  -   -R  -P  -   -P  -P  -S  -S  -P  -P  - 
lop R-P S-S P-  S-R P-P R-P P-P S-P S-S P-P S-P S-P P-  P-P R-P P-  S-P R-S R-   -  S-P S-  R-R P-P P-P R-R R-R P-S R- 
zwe P-P P-R P-  P-R P-P P-P P-S P-R P-P P-P P-P P-P P-  P-P P-P P-  P-P P-S P-  P-S  -  P-  P-R P-P P-R P-S P-P P-S P- 
mau  -R  -R  -   -R  -R  -R  -R  -S  -R  -P  -S  -P  -   -P  -R  -   -P  -S  -   -S  -P  -   -S  -P  -P  -S  -S  -P  - 
tut R-R P-S S-  R-R P-P P-P R-P S-P P-R P-P P-P R-P P-  S-P P-S P-  S-P P-S P-  R-R R-P S-   -  R-P P-R S-R S-P P-S S- 
kie P-P P-S P-  P-R P-P P-S P-S P-S P-R P-P P-R P-P P-  P-P P-P P-  P-P P-S P-  P-P P-P P-  P-R  -  P-S P-R P-S P-S P- 
nun S-P P-P P-  R-R S-P P-S S-R P-R P-P R-P P-P S-P P-  S-P S-S P-  R-P P-S S-  P-P R-P P-  R-P S-P  -  P-P R-R P-R S- 
zex S-P P-R P-  P-R R-P S-R S-P R-S P-R S-P S-P P-P S-  P-P R-S R-  P-P S-S S-  R-R S-P S-  R-S R-P P-P  -  R-S S-R P- 
sli S-R P-S R-  P-P S-P S-P R-S P-S S-S R-P P-S S-P P-  S-P P-S R-  S-P S-S P-  R-R P-P S-  P-S S-P R-R S-R  -  P-S R- 
jut S-P P-P R-  S-S S-P S-S R-R S-S R-S S-P S-P S-P R-  R-P S-S S-  P-P S-S P-  S-P S-P P-  S-P S-P R-P R-S S-P  -  P- 
the  -P  -S  -   -R  -S  -P  -P  -S  -P  -P  -P  -P  -   -P  -R  -   -P  -S  -   -R  -P  -   -S  -P  -S  -P  -R  -P  - 

Score:
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    26  25  00  22  12  24  24  19  10  24  21  18  00  21  23  00  19  31  00  23  22  00  19  19  22  30  20  32  00 
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One Final note: the program may not be very robust agains faulty inputs, so it'd be nice if people stick to the format specified by NiroZ when submitting their moves.

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You did that just to show off your score, didn't you? :P

Edit: My score's correct. Noma's is lower than the score entered on the spreadsheet, though.

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So who advances to the next round? :|

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You did that just to show off your score, didn't you? :P

That is purely coincidental. Also I will not be using mad programming skillz to analyze all your strategies ;).


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Edit: My score's correct. Noma's seems to be a bit low, though.
I noticed some errors and inconsistencies in the manually calculated scores in the spreadsheet. That may be the cause of the difference. A program should be more accurate than human counting, but if anyone has doubts I can post the source code for them to check.

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You did that just to show off your score, didn't you? :P

That is purely coincidental. Also I will not be using mad programming skillz to analyze all your strategies ;).
if (player==jut) score += 10;


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It isn't surprising that noma's score is off. It's the first one I did, and didn't record it properly, and couldn't get around to fixing it yesterday.

I was adding 12 to every score because I was considering it a win every time someone played against someone who didn't play. Thus there were 6 people who didn't play, therefore 12 points for each person. However, I'm now reconsidering it, as it makes it too difficult for the people who didn't play before to catch up (I don't see any point in disqualifying them altogether). Thoughts?

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As far as I can tell my responses were chosen randomly, possibly (1/3) chance of picking any of the three signs. NiroZ, want to confirm that?
Not very surprising. This is the first round. In later rounds it should be a little different.

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Oh, and thank god for Jutt and his programming skills. Is there any particular formatting type that you would prefer for your program, Jutt?

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Right, next submission topic is up people

http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=28420&page=0#277330

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Oh, and thank god for Jutt and his programming skills. Is there any particular formatting type that you would prefer for your program, Jutt?


I agree and thank you thank you thank you so much.... :thumbsup :thumbsup

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w00T! I get 22 points! w00t!

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Apparently nobody takes me at my word around here. What have I done to earn this kind of reputation?

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I missed the first submission topic. Oops.

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Oh, and thank god for Jutt and his programming skills. Is there any particular formatting type that you would prefer for your program, Jutt?

If people copy your list of players and add their move behind each player separated by one or more spaces or hyphens everything should work fine. To read the moves, the program only considers the first letter (case insensitive), so there's no difference between 'Rock' or 'rock' or simply 'R'. As long as people don't add extra words or reverse the order or something odd like that, I don't expect any problems.

When copying the moves from all players to the spreadsheet you can simply stick to the same format as you used before.

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