porcorosso
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Seemingly impossible, yet again.

Well , I think the following needs to be done :

A. use clone to kill tar mother (If mimic is used to do this, then
the 17,16 trapdoor can not be dropped by any of the clones)
B. Somehow using the mimic (first must be placed at 31,6 checkpoint) and last dropping the above trapdoor) and beethro drop all trapdoors while NOT activating or dropping to the pit any orb.
C. reach the conquer token and use decoys on the orbs to get out.


However the tricky part (B) seems impossible as in order to reach the 17,16 trapdoor seems to drop the 18,20 orb into the abyss.

So how can this be possible ????

Rheb
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Hmm, it's hard to give hints on this room without spoiling it completely.



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Blondbeard
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Let me just add: How can you possibly save that orb from falling into the abyss? Also: Remember that there is a certain order in which things happens, and that which mimics and Beethro does tends to have a high movement priority.

porcorosso
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Rheb wrote:
Hmm, it's hard to give hints on this room without spoiling it completely.

Click here to view the secret text

×There is a trick you have to find in this room.

Click here to view the secret text

×The reason that you have two clones is to ease up the mimic manipulation part a bit.

Click here to view the secret text

×When reaching the "unreachable" trapdoors, you should use the smallest of the platforms.

Well I guess I need a 'complete spoiler' as I really do not get the
last hint above while I was already aware of the second one.

Is there some sort of hidden/invisible platform in the room ?
When you say smallest I guess you mean the one initialy on the 19,21 checkpoint , but like I said, using it to reach the 17,16 trapdoor will drop the 18,20 orb so I guess you mean something else but I cannot figure out what ......

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Rheb
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Yes, we're talking about the same platform. What you need to do is to...


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CuriousShyRabbit
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Don't drop the (18,20) orb into the pit. Instead,

porcorosso
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Thank you all, my feeble mind did need that spoiler, as that trick was just to ingenious for me, great room indeed....

disoriented
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Where should I be manipulating the mimic after it's placed, so as to reach the 11,24 trapdoor without dropping any orbs or moving any platforms into unrecoverable arrangements?

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komachi
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disoriented
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I need more, a lot more.

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Dragon Fogel
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File: one-move-before.jpg (194.7 KB)
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My demo is a mess of just muddling around trying to get things in position, but here's a screenshot of the turn before transferring the orb.

disoriented
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Thanks, but I can't achieve that setup. This room seems beyond my capability.
I'm going to ask for a demo please.

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Dragon Fogel
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File: first-orb-transfer.jpg (194.7 KB)
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Since I evidently can't provide a demo you can use, here's the next-best option I can think of: a screenshot just before the first orb transfer. (I didn't realize there were two when I first sped through the demo looking for this point.)



Otherwise, I guess we hope someone who isn't using the beta posts their demo.

disoriented
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I don't mind a 5.1 demo. Can always refer to it when 5.1 is released

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