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So I was bored about five minutes ago, and I decided to google DROD RPG to see if I could find anything new. Unsurprisingly, I couldn't. Then I decided to try Tendry's Tale and, well...

I believe the time has arrived for jumping around in fanboyish glee. Roll on September 12!

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Gasp! Well, if this isn't fanboy-jump-inducing, I don't know what is. You, sir, deserve a mod point.

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09-11-2008 at 12:15 AM
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Pfff... That's the remake.
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Fafnir wrote:
So I was bored about five minutes ago, and I decided to google DROD RPG to see if I could find anything new. Unsurprisingly, I couldn't. Then I decided to try Tendry's Tale and, well...

I believe the time has arrived for jumping around in fanboyish glee. Roll on September 12!

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What is the goblin saying?
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Hey, was that a red door with new graphics (ie completely solid) behind Halph?
Also, Halph hit an orb and closed a red, blue and black door! Madness!

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Awesommmmmme. Friday is my birthday too. Good timing for me!

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09-11-2008 at 02:09 AM
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I am actually less excited now. It seems the more graphics I see of this game, the less I think I'll be able to enjoy it.

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09-11-2008 at 02:39 AM
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ErikH2000 wrote:
Awesommmmmme. Friday is my birthday too. Good timing for me!

-Erik
This may not be a coincidence... ;)

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Shhhh!
I must admit it is intriguing, although its not as compelling as the TCB trailer with the slayer calling after you.
09-11-2008 at 03:01 AM
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Jatopian wrote:
I am actually less excited now. It seems the more graphics I see of this game, the less I think I'll be able to enjoy it.
Well, the graphics used do remind me somewhat of DROD. Might just be the colours or something ;)
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Whoa! Congrats on finding the teaser trailer. I was going to post an announcement tonight when I got home from work, but you beat me to it. I made it simpler than the TCB trailer, and I might do another one in the future just for fun.

Jatopian -- in spite of you rising in the griefer ranks, we love you anyway, and I must concur that graphics have always been DROD's #1 weak point. And with a trailer, what you get is to see the graphics without actually getting to play the game, so the worst of both worlds, in our case. Our playtesters have said they're impressed by the game play, though, and I think the demo will stand on its own to put this spinoff in a good light. Since this is a new series with fresh gameplay, you might feel again like how you felt when you first played AE (for those of you who picked up DROD at or before that time). And hopefully that's a good thing. I think it will be :)

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Rabscuttle wrote:
What is the goblin saying?
Yous look all softlike. All alone too, yezzz?

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As to liking/disliking it based on the trailer:

It's a different game than DROD, and I'm sure it won't appeal to exactly the same set of people - there will be DROD fans who don't like the RPG and vice-versa. But like all Caravel products, there will be a generously-sized demo (that can play user-made holds), so you don't need to rely on the trailer to make decisions. Try the game for yourself and decide.

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I keep rewatching it. Love that starting line...

"Bogged in the mires of despair! Mired in the bogs of injustice!"

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09-11-2008 at 04:24 AM
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Jatopian -- in spite of you rising in the griefer ranks, we love you anyway
I am this random person on the Internet who criticizes your magnum opus, and you love me? That's pretty... admirable... I think. If it's true. But the cynic in me thinks you're being flippant.

Also I admit to being overly sarcastic lately, but some of it is simple misunderstanding by Internet Tough Guys...
I must concur that graphics have always been DROD's #1 weak point. And with a trailer, what you get is to see the graphics without actually getting to play the game, so the worst of both worlds, in our case. Our playtesters have said they're impressed by the game play, though, and I think the demo will stand on its own to put this spinoff in a good light. Since this is a new series with fresh gameplay, you might feel again like how you felt when you first played AE (for those of you who picked up DROD at or before that time). And hopefully that's a good thing. I think it will be :)
I've never really minded the graphics in DROD. I can like simple graphics... what's important is that the graphics are consistent. And a lot of the stuff seems to clash. The lighting aliasing clashes with the grass, the huge fuzzy keys clash with the detailed floor textures... and I wouldn't care so much about things that make it all seem like an abstract puzzle game if it actually were an abstract puzzle game (though all the tokens in DROD3 still bothered me a bit). But with an RPG, as much as I hate to say this, core gameplay isn't the only factor. Part of a Role Playing Game is role playing, or at the very least, immersing oneself in a world of fantasy and adventure. One cannot do this if one is constantly noting little inconsistencies, be they in the graphics, the mechanics, or the story... but the graphics especially, if only by sheer virtue of their omnipresence.

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Jatopian wrote:
But with an RPG, as much as I hate to say this, core gameplay isn't the only factor. Part of a Role Playing Game is role playing, or at the very least, immersing oneself in a world of fantasy and adventure.

I've said this before (though I'm not sure Mike would entirely agree):

DROD RPG is not an RPG. It's not even a CRPG. It's a puzzle game with RPG elements.

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Sure, I think I understand. And believe me, I am keenly aware of all these issues. I could work on improving them, but that would delay the release another few months.

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eytanz wrote:
Jatopian wrote:
But with an RPG, as much as I hate to say this, core gameplay isn't the only factor. Part of a Role Playing Game is role playing, or at the very least, immersing oneself in a world of fantasy and adventure.

I've said this before (and I'm not sure Mike would entirely agree):

DROD RPG is not an RPG. It's not even a CRPG. It's a puzzle game with RPG elements.
I agree with Eytan. Think of, say the Shining Force, Final Fantasy Tactics, or Advance Wars games...they are all turn-based strategy games with RPG elements, but some people might consider them "RPGs" anyway.

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mrimer wrote:
Jatopian -- in spite of you rising in the griefer ranks, we love you anyway

In this thread, Jatopian goes 'I'm not sure I like that there's been little or no graphical improvement over TCB in this game.'

Mrimer accuses him of trolling--no, wait. 'Griefing'.

I'm sorry.

What.

Edit: Also epic is that nobody can possibly begin to tell me that the graphical style in this game is consistent, nor that the utter lack of consistency is not starting to grate /hard/.

inb4 'flawlessly consistent'.


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Edit: Also epic is that nobody can possibly begin to tell me that the graphical style in this game is consistent, nor that the utter lack of consistency is not starting to grate /hard/.

Well, of course no-one can tell you that. If anyone did, they'd be lying.

Caravel doesn't have any graphics people working for it - it used to, but all of them left. Erik was the last to go. Yes, it's probably a good idea to get new ones, but as Mike said, doing so for DROD RPG that would have delayed the release by months.

Oh, and I don't think Mike meant "Griefing" in the multi-player sense; I think he just meant "someone who gives us grief".

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Banjooie wrote:
inb4 'flawlessly consistent'.

inb4 "What's inb4?". Also inb4 "Inb4 should be capitalized.".

Now that that's out of the way, let me make your statement true: FLAWLESSLY CONSISTANT.

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Caravel doesn't have any graphics people working for it - it used to, but all of them left. Erik was the last to go. Yes, it's probably a good idea to get new ones, but as Mike said, doing so for DROD RPG that would have delayed the release by months.

Oh, and I don't think Mike meant "Griefing" in the multi-player sense; I think he just meant "someone who gives us grief".

You don't have /an--

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Also, what's with the /b/, when you could have just hit the italics button and get b?
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If I might focus on the graphical improvements -

Are the dimpleless doors from DROD: TOTS going to make their way back into DROD: Daleks?

Also the opening chest mechanism.
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DROD: Daleks?
It's called Robots, at least on my Debian... wait, where'd it go? Bah.

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Caravel doesn't have any graphics people working for it - it used to, but all of them left. Erik was the last to go. Yes, it's probably a good idea to get new ones, but as Mike said, doing so for DROD RPG that would have delayed the release by months.
Couldn't Caravel make the tile graphics public domain so we could give them a good paintover in a collective effort, without having to start from scratch?

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What's the symbol on some of the yellow doors?

I see a wubba.

Hey, there are different graphics on different swords - compare the pet roach (Roachy?) screen with the Halph screen.

Why is there a release date? It is confusing.

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For a game trailer the video is surprisingly obscure. It means little even to the people who dig DROD but do not frequent Caravel Forums.
Hoorah, it's a new DROD game!
But it has some RPG elements! Cool!
Chests!
Keys?
Cutscenes!?
What is a pocket roach?
Why haven't these sword-fighting guys chopped each other into tiny gory bits yet?
Hit points???
Has DROD gone rogue(like)?
Whathehell is this game about?

I think these questions are guaranteed to leave any layman confused. Will there be another, more clarifying trailer?


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Where have you been the last six month?

A new trailer? Awsome!

I see you got everything together yourself! Congrats!
I woulnd't be able to anyways. Pinnacle don't like videos that have anything other than standard size, and Zwei-stein won't run on vista.

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