DiMono
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C h a l l e n g e !

Dugan's Dungeon: Level 23, Once South, Twice West

Don't step on any trapdoors

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The_Red_Hawk
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I remember this room.....

Have you done it? because I think it might be impossible.

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

agaricus5
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The_Red_Hawk wrote:
I remember this room.....

Have you done it? because I think it might be impossible.

It's not. I just did it.

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zex20913
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Quite possible. You may be looking at the wrong room...or something.

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The_Red_Hawk
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It's the one with all the goblins and serpents, right?

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

agaricus5
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The_Red_Hawk wrote:
It's the one with all the goblins and serpents, right?

Most of the rooms on level 23 have goblins and serpents, Hawk.

Did you forget?

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The_Red_Hawk
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No, I didn't forget. The one with excessive numbers of both.

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

zex20913
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There are about 8 or 9 snakes of length 8, and the same number of goblins.

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The_Red_Hawk
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Yes, that's the right one, as far as I can tell.

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

zex20913
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Yup. That's the one. Keep trying, you'll get it.

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The_Red_Hawk
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I can't. All my data for Dugan's is on my other computer, which is really slow. I'm going through again, but I'm only at 16 on my fast one.

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

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It was really a waste of everyone's time then to go through all that discussion of whether or not it could be done that way without even bothering to try it yourself.

Game on,

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The_Red_Hawk
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My other computer still works, and I tried it there, but I'm not going to try there again.

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

DiMono
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agaricus5 wrote:

The_Red_Hawk wrote:
I remember this room.....

Have you done it? because I think it might be impossible.

It's not. I just did it.

Cool, now that I know it's possible I'll give it a try

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agaricus5
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DiMono wrote:

agaricus5 wrote:

The_Red_Hawk wrote:
I remember this room.....

Have you done it? because I think it might be impossible.

It's not. I just did it.

Cool, now that I know it's possible I'll give it a try

If you're serious, then that's not the spirit of challenge creation - you should test it before you challenge us.

[Edited by agaricus5 on 01-02-2004 at 10:24 PM GMT]

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DiMono
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Of course I'm not serious, I'm just having fun by playing Hawk's doubts against him.

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

Scott
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I took a look at the room decided it was going to be pretty easy and didn't bother. Is it hard cause when I did it I didn't use the trapdoors to keep goblins off me. Only stepped on them because they were the shortest way to go.

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It's not that hard. I think I normally do it with one trapdoor, so it wasn't too tough for me.

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The_Red_Hawk
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Here's another one for the same room, though I'm not able to test it. Step on all the trapdoors while there are still goblins free.

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

DiMono
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Not possible, one of the goblins enters a snake room almost immediately in such a way that you cannot prevent it.

[Edited by DiMono on 01-04-2004 at 05:27 AM GMT]

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zex20913
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He didn't say *all* goblins free. And, it's not too much of a challenge if you just leave one free. Maybe there should be a certain number left free Hawk?

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DiMono
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Ah, I misread. I'd suggest the maximum available, which I think is 7

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The_Red_Hawk
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Hmmm.... Would three be enough?

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

DiMono
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If you don't do it with every goblin that doesn't automatically enter a snake room, there's just not enough style rubbed on it.

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The_Red_Hawk
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All right then, that's okay.....

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Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

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Ok, since no-one posted whether dropping all trapdoors with 7 goblins free is possible or not, I'll chime in to say that it definitely is, but that it's also harder than doing it without dropping any trapdoor.

I'm attaching a screenshot of the room with all trapdoors down and 7 goblins free. It's relatively easy to go on and solve the room from that position (or, more accurately, it's not any harder to do so than from any other position).

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Sorry for dragging up an old topic, but is actually possible to drop all the trapdoors while all 8 goblins are free.