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One thing about the Abyss....

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Tahnan wrote:I do agree that "Island Hopping" seems, er, not to do anything.

But thats because someone tried a 302 again. And I can't play something like that...

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07-10-2007 at 06:37 AM

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Tahnan wrote:I do agree that "Island Hopping" seems, er, not to do anything.
But thats because someone tried a 302 again. And I can't play something like that...

I wondered if that might be the case. Well, good way to get a low rating, I'm afraid.

07-10-2007 at 06:49 AM

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Second entry attached. It's, well, it's a cheap trick. There's scripting, but it's all clearly explained: no tricks there.

07-10-2007 at 06:51 AM

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Banjooie wrote:
One thing about the Abyss.

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07-10-2007 at 09:57 AM

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Since everyone else seems to be having so much fun, I have decided to come out of retirement and throw this little hold into the mix.

All that needs to be asked is if it is possible or impossible?

:devil

No scripting or fancy lighting used here. This is good old fashioned cheapness.

Edit : Now modified to include hints and solution for the weak of mind.

Steve.

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07-10-2007 at 10:35 AM

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Well, might as well add my hold into the mix.

Is the trick here that the solution scrolls are actually lying?

I figured out the problem. The hold was made in 3.0.2 and wasn't converted, so the scripted character with the "Set player Role" command is blank.

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07-10-2007 at 10:36 AM

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Other than the fact that I forgot to convert it, which I am not sure of how to do...

I feel I can come up with a cheaper trick, so will be submitting a second hold once I make it.

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07-10-2007 at 01:28 PM

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Other than the fact that I forgot to convert it, which I am not sure of how to do...

Check this out.

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07-10-2007 at 01:43 PM

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Entry 2: The Gift of Flight or Flipping the Bird
No scripting here.

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07-10-2007 at 05:15 PM

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Heya Jacob. Solving holds without looking at their solutions until after you've solved them is wonderful, isn't it?

Attached is a solution to your second hold that is not what you outlined in your solution scrolls.

The room is actually pretty decently difficult, but not cheap, without executing it your way, so I was surprised.

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07-10-2007 at 06:40 PM

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And similarly, Jdyers Color Dilemma also has a non-cheap solution that's not descibed in the hints. Attached is a demo for the puzzle room.

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Second entry for me. (Still my first contest.)

Again, I haven't attempted to look at all the entries so far, so any duplication of others' ideas is purely coincidental.

EDIT: v02 attached - Fixed unintended solution (I hope). Thx, Tim.

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All right, here is the converted form for my first one.

I will be placing two more posts after this for my next entry, one for the converted hold, and one for the original, for my second entry.

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So here is my second entry converted to 3.0.0 format.

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And for those who don't really want to get 3.0.0 holds, here is the 3.0.2 hold

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07-10-2007 at 11:58 PM

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Color Dilemma v. 2 still seems to have an unintended solution in it.

Here's how I managed to get through without finding that

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you mentioned at the end of the hold.

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07-11-2007 at 12:21 AM

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jdyer wrote:
Here is (version 2 of) my second entry with two unintended solutions removed (thanks, Tahnan and Jutt).

There's still an unintended solution.

edit: *snap*

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07-11-2007 at 12:27 AM

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I'm delaying the new version of Color Dilemma until I test it through some more. Thanks to everyone for being so clever.

07-11-2007 at 01:57 AM

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jamesdenem wrote:
And for those who don't really want to get 3.0.0 holds, here is the 3.0.2 hold

Well, except if I'm not mistaken, 3.0.2r2 is incapable of importing its own script format. So users of 3.0.2r2 should also download the 3.0.0 version, and there's no reason to post the other one.

07-11-2007 at 04:50 AM

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jamesdenem wrote:
And for those who don't really want to get 3.0.0 holds, here is the 3.0.2 hold
Well, except if I'm not mistaken, 3.0.2r2 is incapable of importing its own script format. So users of 3.0.2r2 should also download the 3.0.0 version, and there's no reason to post the other one.

mutter mutter there was no reason to post the first one mutter mutter

Er, what I mean is: everyone has their own taste in cheap tricks. "Guess the scripting" is not mine.

07-11-2007 at 05:44 AM

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If you managed to either reach the stairs from the western entrance or reach the stairs from the northern entrance with the Mother starting off dead, then you've circumvented any trick the Abyss was using.

Banjooie, is this the case? If so, there's an unintended solution and I need to fix it.

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07-11-2007 at 04:07 PM

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Heya Jacob. Solving holds without looking at their solutions until after you've solved them is wonderful, isn't it?

Er...no.
OK, better change this. Don't have a clue why I didn't think that one through.

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That said:
Here's my third and last entry.

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07-11-2007 at 05:26 PM

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Pinnacle wrote:
Banjooie, is this the case? If so, there's an unintended solution and I need to fix it.

Oh. See, I thought it meant you couldn't clear it at all.

Yeah, never mind.

07-11-2007 at 06:56 PM

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Here is my last cheap trick, and I promise that this time it isn't a scripting trick.

[edit] Made so my trick works.

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Uh, what are you talking about, of course you can be efficient enough to beat the briars.

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07-11-2007 at 07:41 PM

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Chaco wrote:
Uh, what are you talking about, of course you can be efficient enough to beat the briars.

Not intended, though of course I probably am not the best in efficiency. Thanks for pointing it out though, Chaco.

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07-11-2007 at 08:09 PM

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Jatopian wrote:
I'm sure trick is very upset about all this.

Nah, I'll only be upset if I don't get around to making an entry.

Haven't checked out the entries so far, but I've got some ideas. Thinking about them brings out my evil maniacal laugh.

07-12-2007 at 09:37 AM

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An unintended demo for Zs Cheap Trick 2.

At least not compeletly according to the hints.

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07-12-2007 at 11:17 AM

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Tim wrote:
An unintended demo for Zs Cheap Trick 2.

At least not compeletly according to the hints.

Yep...That was an oversight. I'll rework the entry area to eliminate it. Thx, Tim.

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