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iamyum
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This room drives me nuts. The NW worker decided to release the briar and kill himself before releasing the eastmost goblins. How can I make sure this worker fulfills its life purpose (releasing monsters before briar)?? From what I see, its path had been unobstructed from beginning till it released the briar. Am I supposed to block its path with golemn remnants?

Edit: scratch that.... division of labor...

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05-29-2007 at 02:12 AM
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I hate this room and I hate workers!
Could someone please give me a 'definition' of what the workers do and how, please? There doesn't appear to be one with the explanations on the other monsters.
And while we're at it a little tip for this room would be great too.

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02-19-2008 at 05:32 AM
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(excuse the garledness of this post - ask if when it's confusing.)

Ok, first off the floor that fades in and out are build markers - they let you know what and where the builders try to build.

Builders get a colour based on which build station they are closest to.

note: the following is a very rough description, there are added complications (multiple stations, the token in the middle) but you can probably ignore them in this room, at least.

Builder's basic behaviour is
* Go to a build station of their colour.
* wait 1 turn (gather building supplies)
* Go to the nearest thing that needs building
* Build it.
repeat

If they can't get to something to build or a build station, they will stand still.

So in this room, what you need to do is get the builders to
* remove the oremites so you can kill the tarstuff
* remove the pits so you can kill the snakes
* remove the walls so you can reach the tarstuff/switch and kill the rock giants and goblins.

You don't want them to release the briars until the other stuff is done. You also don't want to remove all the crumbly walls until the snakes are dead (unless you use dead golems)

Now, you can control which builders are active by using the arrow token. At the start of the room, green and red are trapped in the centre. Step on the token and you free them, but trap white and blue.

The important thing to note in this room is that builders build whatever is closest to them.




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02-19-2008 at 06:07 AM
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yarnexpress
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This room is making me crazy. I have the same problem as the first poster. The NW builder releases the briar before the remaining goblins & rock giant. I've killed the tar, the snakes, & the 1st rock giant & gobelins. I've read how builders work but it seems to me that the NW builder is ALWAYS closest to the briar wall. Can someone post a demo or tell me how to get that NW builder to skip the briars? TIA
03-28-2011 at 08:40 PM
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Can someone post a demo or tell me how to get that NW builder to skip the briars? TIA

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03-28-2011 at 10:00 PM
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Alternatively, you could try using a different builder.

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I simply can't figure this out. I must be dense. The builder darts around me or I can't fight the first batch of goblins and defent the briar wall. I can't seem to do both. If I try to kill goblins I'm drawn away from the wall. I've come this far, my last room & I seem to be the only one after all these years who can't conquer this room. Is there a specific order I should attack this room? Or something else critical I'm missing? I hope someone will share a demo so I can move on.
03-29-2011 at 12:37 AM
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Never mind. Somehow I managed to conquer this room. Don't know what I did differently but without blocking the NW builder or trying to defend the briar wall the briars weren't prematurely released. Oh, well. Onward!
03-29-2011 at 01:41 AM
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...The builder darts around me or I can't fight the first batch of goblins and defent the briar wall. I can't seem to do both. If I try to kill goblins I'm drawn away from the wall. ... I hope someone will share a demo so I can move on.
The words of yarnexpress define my situation precisely. I've finished the tar/mud, the seep, the snakes, and one lot each of goblins and golems. But I can't block something dire at this point: either the goblins or the briar.

I suspect a demo is of limited use, if this is the sort of room where each move's value depends on the previous one. Still, what I'm doing clearly isn't working. May I request a demo, please?
09-11-2011 at 02:07 AM
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The words of yarnexpress define my situation precisely. I've finished the tar/mud, the seep, the snakes, and one lot each of goblins and golems. But I can't block something dire at this point: either the goblins or the briar.

I suspect a demo is of limited use, if this is the sort of room where each move's value depends on the previous one. Still, what I'm doing clearly isn't working. May I request a demo, please?
CuriousShyRabbit's hint is really all you need if you've gotten that far.

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09-11-2011 at 02:27 AM
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Rinaldo
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And indeed, before I knew there had been a reply here, I solved the room, applying (consciously or not) those very precepts. It was much easier than I had feared, as long as I just
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I was imagining a much more intricate strategy than I needed.

Thanks to all for their helpful words!
09-11-2011 at 07:09 PM
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Cannot believe there is no demo yet, this level is impossible, please help!
PS - beat it with some youtube video help! :D

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