Judi
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First up, if I do anything wrong here I am sorry, I've never posted to the forum before. Anyway, am stuck in 2N1W, just keep getting killed, I know it mentions a secret passage and I can see where you can punch through the wall on the west but I can't get over there before getting overrun, could someone please give me an idea of how to master this room.

NiroZ
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Well I'd say your doing better than most.

Anyway, when dealing with this room, remember that the guards down the bottom will not actively chase you. Turning your sword helps, as well as

zex20913
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Or, if you want more of a challenge,

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Insane
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I think I really need a demo on this one.
So far I've tried going southwest holding my sword in all directions at least 10 times, and still haven't gotten it.
I tend to get stuck between the row of guards on the bottom and the guards chasing me, in a situation where every possible move kills me.

-Insane

Edit: H&S magic. I got it with my sword pointing NW, starting on the bottommost tile.

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key-smiter
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{sigh} I have two problems with this room . . . .

1) How can I stop the extended introduction? I've found it best to restart the room and go do something else, but there must be a better way . . .
2) I've tried all combinations of NW/SW sword directions with NW/SW movements. I can get only halfway to the exit before being overwhelmed. Can I ask for a "first couple of moves" hint, or even a demo?

Thanks -

tokyokid
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File: TCB Castle Dugan 2N1W.demo (3.9 KB)
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Not much else to do but post a demo...

And if you wish to skip the cutscene, simply hold the space bar down, until it's over.

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tokyokid
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key-smiter wrote:
Thanks. Now if there were only some way to bypass the long intro.

I did edit my message, you know. You can hold the space bar down to skip the cutscene.

key-smiter
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Bah. Didn't remove my whiny rejoinder quick enough.

Edit . . . I figured out my problem, that I have five more guards than in your demo. No wonder . . .

To what DROD gods should I petition to get this same treatment?

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key-smiter
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File: TCB Castle Dugan 2N1W with extra guards.demo (3.5 KB)
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For comparative purposes, a demo of my situation . . . I'm not convinced the room is possible with these five extra guards on my end.

Thanks -

Briareos
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File: TCB Castle Dugan 2N1W with extra escape.demo (3.8 KB)
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One hopefully convincing demo coming up...

(I just had to try it - I guess trying to killing the guards in the hall earlier today made the five extra redshirts show up...)

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key-smiter
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Thanks . . . that worked. Not sure what part of the game I slept through that would have made me realize it's best to leave sleeping guards lie.

Mr. Slice
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Really? I thought that killing guards in the other rooms made less guards appear in the throne room.

Either way, you can only leave the room by finding the secret passageway all south of the throne, but along the east wall.

I'd recommend pointing your sword north-west, and moving south west along the guards, once you get near the bottom, turn your sword north, move a bit, and face your sword north east to kill more guards.

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Briareos
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Mr. Slice wrote:
Either way, you can only leave the room by finding the secret passageway all south of the throne, but along the east wall.

ITYM "west wall"...

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Mr. Slice
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Whoops, sorry. I sometimes get my easts and wests mixed up.

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File: TCB Castle Dugan 2N 1W - Poor Guards.demo (3.9 KB)
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A demo of all the guards meeting unfortunate fates.

tempestadept
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Btw, what should you do to make all the additional guards appear?

Dragon Fogel
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You have to kill guards before getting there.

Clearing out the eight guards in the room east of the throne room is enough.

JLE
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Indeed. Actually evading previous guards - going past them in a guard disguise - means they're not on alert, and only three actually enter the room to chase you (others stand at the sides, although they will stab you if you run adjacent to them, they won't move unless they can stab you by doing so).

Kill the earlier guards, though, and you get a whole host of other mobile guards to deal with too... It is possible to kill them all, but very very difficult.

junglejane
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What ever I do I have the five extra guards appear. The room would be so easy without those five extra guards. In detail what do I do to not have the five extra guards appear or best of all could I have a demo that actually shows getting to the left wall with those extra guards.
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JLE wrote:
Indeed. Actually evading previous guards - going past them in a guard disguise - means they're not on alert, and only three actually enter the room to chase you (others stand at the sides, although they will stab you if you run adjacent to them, they won't move unless they can stab you by doing so).

Kill the earlier guards, though, and you get a whole host of other mobile guards to deal with too... It is possible to kill them all, but very very difficult.

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The number of guards that appear depends on how many guards you've killed previously, in the entire Dugandy section of the game (Dugandy, King Dugan's New Dungeon, Castle Dugan). If you haven't killed any at all, you get the most lenient CD 2N1W; if you've killed up to 8 in total, you get the middle version; more than 8 and you get the hardest version.

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junglejane
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Thank you!! I will give your help a try tomorrow. It seems I may have to go back many rooms...........I have now gone back to the beginning of
Dungandy and avoided killing any guards. I have now successfully exited this room. It was a piece of cake without those extra guards. Thanks to all for help and suggestions. Whew

Nuntar wrote:
The number of guards that appear depends on how many guards you've killed previously, in the entire Dugandy section of the game (Dugandy, King Dugan's New Dungeon, Castle Dugan). If you haven't killed any at all, you get the most lenient CD 2N1W; if you've killed up to 8 in total, you get the middle version; more than 8 and you get the hardest version.

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