Sillyman
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I need a route diagram for this room. Phooie.

Edit: I got it. I just

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Gigi
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Up till now everything went fine, but here I'm stuck, completely, for hours now.
If I label the roaches A to D from W to E and the fegundo's 1 to 4 from W to E then I can use 4 to kill of D (I see no other possibility) and then Im stuck: using 1 on A drives 3 on a stone.
And the others are out of reach.

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NiroZ
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Gigi wrote:
Up till now everything went fine, but here I'm stuck, completely, for hours now.
If I label the roaches A to D from W to E and the fegundo's 1 to 4 from W to E then I can use 4 to kill of D (I see no other possibility) and then Im stuck: using 1 on A drives 3 on a stone.
And the others are out of reach.

Yeah, that gets annoying. The only thing you can do is aim to either try and explode another Fegundo, or smash one into the bridge.

Gigi
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Thanks NiroZ, I didnt understand Sillyman's secret text, but now you started saying the same, I tried what you suggested, it took me 45 seconds to solve. Glad I can continue.

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Astronaut
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The "d'oh" that makes this this room a whole lot easier is to realise that

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Briareos
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Another thing to remember with fegundos is that they'll move into the direction you're looking; so even if you run into an obstacle they'll fly in that direction anyway.

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vittro
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I'm stuck here too. I can't solve it even reading your comments... A demo please...

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nobodybutyours
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I can post a demo if you really want to see one, but first I'll give some progressively more detailed pointers:

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tokyokid
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I'm still not getting it.

When I explode it there, it makes no difference.

BeefontheBone
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tokyokid
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Yeah, but then how do you kill the roaches? The Fregundos sink in the water.

BeefontheBone
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Given that it's possible to do the room with all 4 in their initial positions relative to each other, it's definitely possible (read: much easier) to do it with a smaller number of them. Any possible position you get into, there will be at least one direction they can all move in safely (namely, the reverse of the last move). If you're crashing one when you take out a roach with another, you need to come at it from a different angle.

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Briareos
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np: Styrofoam - Future Debt Collector (The Point_Misser)

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Briareos
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BeefontheBone wrote:
If you're crashing one when you take out a roach with another, you need to come at it from a different angle.

Even though I'm probably repeating myself here:


np: Death Cab For Cutie - Someday You Will Be Loved (Plans)

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tokyokid
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Ug. I still can't get it. Could someone post a demo? Pretty-please?

KevG
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File: TCB Interlude Negotiations 2E Victory.demo (3 KB)
Downloaded 298 times.
License: Public Domain

Here you go.

tokyokid
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Thanks, man. I finally got it.

key-smiter
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I completed this room (without following a demo, oddly enough) but in pursuit of complete knowledge I gotta ask . . . what in the world is meant by "crashing a fegundo into the bridge"? As far as I can tell it's neither possible nor useful.

Just curious -

Thanks -

Oneiromancer
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Game on,

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Jatopian
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So... I'm trying to complete this room the intended way, but I can only kill the southeastern roach with the eastmost fegundo. I can't seem to do anything with the other three.

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CuriousShyRabbit
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I had that same question... and am embarrassed to say how long I struggled with it.

Insane
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Out of interest: What good is it to crash a fegundo into the bridge? It's still a challenge to actually maneuver the others to the roaches, regardless of whether the pattern is disrupted or not. Plus, I still haven't managed to actually crash a fegundo into the bridge itself, without sinking the others.

Can somebody please post a demo of this in action?

Thanks,
-Insane

EDIT: Further examination proves this to be impossible, unless I'm missing something.
The one I can crash into the top must be the top one, since otherwise that one would explode before the others even reach it. But now, the top one is too far left. If I get it even near the one bridge tile, the rightmost fegundo crashes into wall. Wtf?

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jbluestein
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Insane wrote:
Out of interest: What good is it to crash a fegundo into the bride? It's still a challenge to actually maneuver the others to the roaches, regardless of whether the pattern is disrupted or not. Plus, I still haven't managed to actually crash a fegundo into the bridge itself, without sinking the others.

Can somebody please post a demo of this in action?

I don't have a demo for you, but the general value of crashing a fegundo into the bridge is simply this: it allows you to unsync the fegundo movements, which makes manipulating them easier. It's not necessary to do so, but it does make the room less challenging.

It's possible to complete the room in any case, though.

Josh

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Syntax
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You can crash one into the bridge with four remaining if you first crash at least one into the entrance section

The Architest
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Could someone give me walkthrough?

Demo isnt working...

viditama
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i still cant see how u can finish the room without
i know i dont need to... but i want to

12th Archivist
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viditama wrote:
i still cant see how u can finish the room without

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×falling on the bridge or entrance.

i know i dont need to... but i want to

Every time you move in a certain direction as this character, you face in that direction. The fegundi also face in that direction. By bumping into the water or walls with your character, you can change the direction of the fegundi without moving.

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viditama
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I DID IT!! and that was pretty satisying!!!! thanx

BainIhrno
Level: Roachling
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Hey everyone,

I've been reading the hints above but am nowhere near solving this room. Any other hints that would be helpful.

Thanks.

mxvladi
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Order in which roaches need to be killed:



While killing northwestern one, there is a trick...