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Okay, first of all, I'd like to congratulate the people who designed rooms on this level, because some of them are brilliant. Especially the force-arrow/fuse room there, that's extremely awesome and a tactic that will probably end up being used later.

Anyway, I get how this room is similar to the other room, but obviously that extra diagonal arrow is there to make life a bit more difficult. I've managed to get the roach to the bottom right hand corner, but I can't really see how I'd get it underneath and to the left, so to speak.

Just watch, I'll probably get it pretty soon.

EDIT:

Good, the H&S effect got upgraded to 3.0 as well. Figured it out. Whoo, hold mastered banner!

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04-02-2007 at 12:05 PM
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Here's a hint:

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04-02-2007 at 04:52 PM
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Actually, I did solve it that way.

Demo attached - don't view if you don't want the room spoiled!

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04-02-2007 at 08:08 PM
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icon Re: The City Beneath : The Uncturage : Once North Twice East (+1)  
I suspect that's possibly an unintended solution, but I'm impressed that you managed to do it that way. I don't know of any other rooms that have a longer unintended solution than the intended solution.

That said, the demo of the shorter solution is included. Again, don't watch if you don't want the room spoiled.

If you just want a bit of a hint, nobodybutyours gave a great one.

If you want a bigger hint:

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04-03-2007 at 01:44 AM
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Those two demos appear to be essentially the same, aside from a bunch of useless moves by Chaco. What's the unintended solution you're talking about?
04-04-2007 at 05:29 PM
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how do i watch the demo in tcb

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04-04-2007 at 08:03 PM
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icon Re: The City Beneath : The Uncturage : Once North Twice East (0)  
same way you do in jtrh!

er. to be less flippant: hit F6 to get the demo management screen for the room you're in(*) (you can't view demos for rooms you haven't been to yet).
you can 'import' .demo files you've downloaded from the forum to view them.
you can't download conquer demos through the game interface unless you're a caravelnet member and have conquered the room yourself.

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(*) techincally, you can view demos for other rooms on the same level, provided you've visited them, by click "view all demos on this level" and then clicking a demo from a different room. this effectively changes the room whose demos you are managing, without having to change what room your character is in. but still only applies to rooms you've visited.


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McFrugal wrote:
Those two demos appear to be essentially the same, aside from a bunch of useless moves by Chaco. What's the unintended solution you're talking about?
Click here to view the secret text

04-05-2007 at 04:00 AM
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Hm, I did it the long way as well. To me it seems like the short way is the unintended solution, since it was similar to the original room.
04-05-2007 at 04:35 AM
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For some reason, TCB doesn't believe that I have this room, so it will not let me import the demos. So, can someone explain the solution in simple terms, because the hints given haven't been enough to penetrate my thick skull.
05-26-2007 at 05:39 AM
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Warning: step-by-step solution ahead:
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05-26-2007 at 05:52 AM
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Ah, of course! The one little thing.

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Thanks. The really weird thing is now I can see the victory demos, but when I try to upload the demos from here, I still get a message that the demo "refers to a hold, level or room you don't have" and it ignores it.
05-26-2007 at 07:07 AM
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spudsfan wrote:
Thanks. The really weird thing is now I can see the victory demos, but when I try to upload the demos from here, I still get a message that the demo "refers to a hold, level or room you don't have" and it ignores it.
Well, how about that. I just downloaded Chaco's demo to try this out and got exactly the same thing. I initially tried importing in another level and room, and then in the correct room, with no success either way. For debugging purposes, I bought and downloaded TCB within a day of release, and I'm still running the original 3.0 executable, unpatched.

Edit: Oh wait, I see the demos have 'TCBD' in the filename. So I assume they were made from the demo, which is not entirely compatible with the full version.

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so here's a full version demo for this room...

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05-26-2007 at 10:16 AM
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zaubberer wrote:
so here's a full version demo for this room...

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Thanks for the demo! :thumbsup
I just needed it today after 2 years. :fun

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The Challenge:

I'm kinda stuck here,
I'm hoping, that if someone tells me to do it clock-wise or counterclock-wise,
it should help me enough to get it.
(else goto "you'll here from me agein :D )

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You have to go around clockwise.

(And just to correct what was said earlier in the topic, I'll add that there are three solutions to the room: the short one, one in which the roach goes to the SE corner and back up, and the all-the-way-around solution that awards the challenge.)

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The demo of the "long" version (the one that awards the challenge) won't import. I suspect it might be due to the fact it starts with TCBD and not TCB; anyone have a working recording?

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"TCBD" would mean it was saved in the demo version of TCB, which has the same first four levels but demos aren't cross-compatible.

Here's a demo saved in the full version.

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