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Author Name:LarryMurk
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Hold Name:Lone Soldier
Theme:Expert horde problems.
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You are an imprisoned soldier. Can you escape prison and defeat the enemy all by yourself?

WARNING: This hold contains mostly horde management problems intended for expert players.
06-22-2006 at 12:56 AM
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Awesome, another LarryMurk hold. I'm looking forward to getting past the first room. Probably one of my favorite architects, too. Great holds you've made. Mostly expert levels though, but not a big surprise. This has a great story, too. And I'm the first downloadee. Cool!

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06-22-2006 at 01:06 AM
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Let me guess... a lot of guards? ;)

Having played Guard Massacre, Renegades, and some of the War series I think I'm reasonably prepared.

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06-22-2006 at 01:16 AM
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ARRRGGHH! Roaches!!! My total for the first room is 31 deaths, a lot of moves (and I mean A LOT!), and I dunno, I killed 8 queen roaches at the most in one try...

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06-22-2006 at 01:20 AM
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I managed to solve that room, but *argh*, the others...

If you can't solve any rooms other than the entrance, I suggest you give up... these rooms are *seriously* hard, man. I am evidently not an expert.

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06-22-2006 at 01:31 AM
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Hey folks.

Thanks for the early votes of confidence.
It's good to have at least a "dummy vote" so people can download it ingame.

Please note as mentioned above, this is not a puzzle hold like I've usually made in the past. The rooms pretty much all deal with hordes of spawning monsters. They will take a great deal of skill, strategy, and patience.

I warn you because I believe this hold could easily have a very limited audience. If it isn't fun for you, by all means skip on it.
06-22-2006 at 01:34 AM
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aw, I can't see the rooms until I play it :(
06-22-2006 at 01:35 AM
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Then play it. The first room is pretty indicative of the rest of them.

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06-22-2006 at 01:36 AM
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I'm at work and can't.
06-22-2006 at 01:39 AM
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larrymurk wrote:
They will take a great deal of skill, strategy, and patience.

Ugh, some, some, and none.

Keep posting,
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P.S. Larry, you are allowed to make SS holds right?

EDIT: Duh, Perfection.

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06-22-2006 at 01:41 AM
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Rabscuttle wrote:
aw, I can't see the rooms until I play it :(

Yeah, I'm sort of doing a completely new thing with this hold.

Being that I felt this hold would have a limited audience, I actually asked for no testers. The theory is that you're a lone soldier "up against it" so I'm going to see if I can manage to not give hints. And I put that you can only see room images you've visited.

I'll try to replay the entire hold tomorrow to prove it is solveable.

Good luck to all those interested.
06-22-2006 at 01:42 AM
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Folks, I reitterate that I appreciate having a "dummy vote", but please refrain from voting on the hold until you're done with it. You might just find that it's not that fun to you.
06-22-2006 at 01:46 AM
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Good. Lord. Al. Mighty.

I've...well, I've got three rooms finished, anyway. The downside is that I therefore have no sense of whether my solution was remotely optimal. The upside is that, not knowing that Rabscuttle and Syntax and Doom beat me by 300 moves, I don't find myself saying, "You mean I have to play that room again?"

Don't get me wrong; this is certainly fun. But it's easy the way the Pacific is dry.
06-22-2006 at 03:51 AM
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Uh, small problem here. See, this hold is totally illogical.

I know from watching movies that the bad guys always leave it so their backside is unprotected and once the hero springs from prison, it's a cakewalk to get to the final battle.

This hold is, like, the exact opposite of that. Totally unrealistic.


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06-22-2006 at 04:48 AM
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larrymurk wrote:
And I put that you can only see room images you've visited.

Well, I don't mind too much, it's just I've been playing a bit offline and I've found that quite a few of the (non SS) rooms and holds that I've been looking at recently have been hidden away.
06-22-2006 at 08:09 AM
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4 votes and average difficulty of ten? I guess this is another "must-try" case. *Downloads* :guns
06-22-2006 at 09:15 AM
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on a more serious note - I understand your desire not to post specific hints for these rooms, but I'm thinking its time there was a Strategy Guide post about horde management, and you're one of the people most likely to be qualified to write it :)


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06-22-2006 at 10:02 AM
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Erm... Wow... That's Difficult...

And i thought Perfection was tricky

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06-22-2006 at 10:33 AM
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That was fun. I'd describe it as "like the horde rooms in 'Fun Park', but harder." :thumbsup


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06-22-2006 at 11:24 AM
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Agrees with Rabscuttle. A few rooms were kind of repeating (compare 2W/2E and 2S1W/2S1E), but it was mostly Ok.

Also, 2N1W was a joke compared to the other rooms in the level.

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06-22-2006 at 01:42 PM
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Teaches me to not have it play tested.

Unfortunately, I can not even see the demos on this computer so I'll have to wait a day or 2 to see if they work on my other computer. If you were able to use the same method (and I believe you when you say you did), I should replace the version on the 1st floor entirely. We'll see.
06-22-2006 at 02:10 PM
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UPDATE:

Sorry folks, I have updated this hold on 6/22/2006.

The only change was in the final battle room so I hope people will not lose any progress up to that point.
06-22-2006 at 03:46 PM
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Woohoo! That was fun! I think people are a bit hasty with the 10 brains thing. It's tough, but not much tougher than Beethro's Teacher. For different reasons, of course.

Yeah, 2W and 2E are similar, but I found 2W a lot harder. 2S1W and 2S1E are a bit too similar.
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06-22-2006 at 07:19 PM
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michthro wrote:
I think people are a bit hasty with the 10 brains thing. It's tough, but not much tougher than Beethro's Teacher. For different reasons, of course.

but I gave BT 10 brains :) (I haven't rated this hold yet)


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Ahhh... So you were too hasty with the 10 brains thing when rating BT. ;)
06-22-2006 at 08:25 PM
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michthro wrote:
Ahhh... So you were too hasty with the 10 brains thing when rating BT. ;)

Hey, if BT doesn't deserve 10 brains, or at least 9, I'd hate to see something that does.



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06-22-2006 at 08:28 PM
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larrymurk wrote:
UPDATE:

Sorry folks, I have updated this hold on 6/22/2006.

The only change was in the final battle room so I hope people will not lose any progress up to that point.
That seems to work now ;)

Makes Perfection : Perfect 4 : 1 South, 1 East look like child's play.
06-22-2006 at 08:42 PM
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Aaaand...finished! With the entrance.

OK, now on to the next room. Hmmm...1N, 2W, or 2N, 1W? (ulp)



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06-23-2006 at 03:18 PM
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Scarily, I'm actually doing alright in this hold.
06-23-2006 at 05:02 PM
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Wonderful!

When I have this feeling of greatness rising I just have to download a hold from Larry and voila - I feel perfectly humble again.

After having solved the first room the greatness came back.
After seeing the other rooms ... well, you know.


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